Sunday, 12 May 2019

Change of Speaker for May Meeting

We had hoped to welcome Mark Whitelocks, Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancs' Managing Director to speak at our next meeting, on 22nd May.  Mark spoke to us about a year ago when he was very new in the job and I'm sure members were looking forward to hearing about his experiences in his first year of running the company.

Sadly, Mark is unable to make it after all, but instead we are pleased to learn that Tom Waterhouse, the company's Operations Director will be attending in his place.  Our dealings with Stagecoach in recent times have been rather more about the commercial side of the business (fares, routes etc) so this will be a good opportunity for members to raise matters of an operational nature with Tom, although no doubt he will have been briefed on the commercial side as well.

The meeting takes place on Wednesday, 22nd May at 15.15hrs  at The Cornerstone Community Centre, Sulyard Street, Lancaster (off Dalton Square) and is open to BUG members and visitors alike.

Tuesday, 7 May 2019

Buses Banned From Dalton Square! (Or are they?)

Dalton Square was used as a temporary terminus after the floods in 2015
In recent years Dalton Square has been used as a bus terminus twice. In 2013 during the United Utilities works that closed half the bus station and again two years later following Storm Desmond and the subsequent flooding that closed it completely.

So when Lancashire County Council decided it wanted to close Common Garden Street overnight on April 24th/25th it seemed a no-brainer that the square could be brought back into use as an alternative. Despite there having been no regular services calling there, the three bus stop poles and timetable cases were already in place, making it easy for drivers and passengers to use.

Imagine our surprise, therefore, when we were told that the County Council "would not allow" Stagecoach to use these stops during the closure and just to make sure that it didn't, the bus stops and timetable cases would be removed (although the poles remain!).  Nor would the county council consider allowing a temporary stop to be placed on Thurnham Street, leaving passengers from Common Garden Street (and George Street) no alternative but to walk to either the Infirmary or the Bus Station to get their bus.

Stagecoach seems to have gone along with this, but to the Bus Users' Group the move raised certain questions.  Dalton Square is public highway and there are no restrictions on the number, size or type of vehicles that can use it. The Square would only have been used as a stop for picking-up passengers and not for layover so it appeared to us that an important principle was at stake.

A spokesperson for Lancashire County Council, clearly with no historical knowledge, said:

   Dalton Square was never originally made for bus use and this has previously been notified to Stagecoach officer. Lancashire County Council would not support this arrangement moving forward.

Maybe Dalton Square wasn't intended for use by buses, but it certainly has history. Bus services between Lancaster and surrounding towns and villages began after the First World War and in 1921 Dalton Square was designated as their official terminus (City services used Market Square). By 1928 so many buses were using the Square that it was deemed to be "full" and any new routes were allocated to Damside Street.  Dalton Square was used as a terminus until a bus station was opened on the site of the present one in 1939  and services to Preston and Blackpool continued to use it as a calling point until the 1980s.

The County Council also claims that the use of the Square by buses would "deform and damage the historic road surface" and that even the small number of buses that would have used the stop during the late evening in University holidays could not be allowed.

However, the Council's spokesperson also gave another reason for preventing buses from using the square, claiming that in order for them to do so safely the car parking bays nearby would have to be taken out of use.  And there we have it: the BUG strongly suspects that this is the real reason why buses were not allowed to use the Square. The inconvenience to a handful of car drivers is clearly much more important to the Council that that of a much larger number of bus passengers.

Or at least that was what we thought - until  we saw this:


Yes!  That's right - a bus from Dalton Square EVERY 30 MINUTES  for THREE WHOLE DAYS!

Apparently, it's just fine for the Lancaster Food Festival to organise a free bus service for their customers and to use Dalton Square as a pick-up point!  Is it perhaps that Food Festival customers are somehow more important than mere ordinary bus passengers (and maybe on a par with those pampered car drivers ) or is it just that with Dalton Square being public highway nobody thought they needed  to ask permission?

And in the meantime and at the time of writing Dalton Square's "historic road surface" appears remarkably un-deformed and undamaged!

Wednesday, 17 April 2019

Take Care When Going to Carnforth (again)!

Be careful if you're planning a Sunday trip to Carnforth on the 555
A regular feature of service 555 is the twice-yearly service change between "Summer" and "Winter" that takes place in April and October each year. The change is most marked on Sundays, when in the summer all northbound journeys on the two-hourly service move forward by an hour and all southbound buses into Lancaster are retimed to run  21 minutes later than they do in Winter.
Naturally, Stagecoach re-issues its "Lakes Guide" timetable booklet to take account of the change.

But the 555 also appears in the 55 timetable leaflet as the two services are co-ordinated to provide an even-interval service from Lancaster as far as Carnforth. Last year, Stagecoach didn't issue a new "55" timetable in October so the timetable available to the public continued to show the out-of-date summer times (read about it here). The justification given to enquirers in the travel shop was that it didn't matter as "only the Sunday times are wrong"!

We thought the company had learnt its lesson for this summer and were pleased to see that the 55 timetable, which is included in a booklet with a number of other services that serve Carnforth, had been reissued dated "6th April - 27th October," these being the dates of the summer 555 timetable.

Southbound departures from Carnforth are shown correctly at 1005 1205 1405 1605 and 1805 but whoever compiled the leaflet has made a mess of the northbound journeys!  Just for the record, these leave Lancaster at 0915  1115  1315  1515 and 1715  but the new timetable shows just four departures, one of which is wrong by 5 minutes and the rest by a whopping 55 minutes - a fifth journey is simply missing!

The on-line 55 timetable at the time of writing was showing the "working timetable" for the 55, which is correct but which makes no mention at all of the 555, which in the circumstances is perhaps just as well!

Marks:  0/10  Please see teacher!